11-12-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Romy the Cat Boston, MA Posts 10,400 Joined on 05-27-2004 Post #: 1 Post ID: 20260 Reply to: 20260 A Cardboard Effect. fiogf49gjkf0d I have seen this effect before not frequently in my playback however. It happens that I did not listen my main playback attentively for 2 months. Frankly I did not even turn it on for a month or so. With many other things that are going now in my life when I listen my music I do not use main playback. It is not that I have no interests but there are other priorities now in my radars. The main playback is sits there unused which is fine, I will be back. A 2-3 weeks ago an local audio guy came to listed my playback and I played to him it from the dead cold state. He said that it did not sound as good as use to be and it was about it. Not a lot of high-end audio activities are doing on now. Anyhow, a few days ago I developer some nostalgia for good sound and I desired to spend an evening with in listening room.  I tuned the playback on and let it to burn for good 12 hours; I do not know that after long non-working it sounds “hard”. I played a few tunes and with very first bar I heard that something is very wrong. First of all it was bright and send of all it had that Cardboard Effect. The Cardboard Effect is a situation when sound sounds like it bounds from a huge thin cardboard shit and I clearly hear the cardboard contributions. It is not electricity or anything like this but rather the untrained drivers suspensions, or at least it is my hypnotizes. So, last night I set a tuner between stations and was running FM static at high volumes for good 8 hours into Macondo. Today I will be seeing if the breaking in the drivers this way would fix my Cardboard Effect. If not then I will leave the playback to run my test sweep noise for another 12 hours. The Cat "I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche

11-12-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Paul S San Diego, California, USA Posts 2,797 Joined on 10-12-2006 Post #: 2 Post ID: 20261 Reply to: 20260 Icing Up fiogf49gjkf0d When I am away from my system for long-ish spells, it seems like all the components need serious actual play time before they begin to sound like I mean for them to.  The usual warm-up alone is not enough once there has been a hiatus of a certain duration; I have not yet figured out how long would be the minimum, exactly, but a couple of weeks will do it every time. Best regards, Paul S

11-14-2013 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Romy the Cat Boston, MA Posts 10,400 Joined on 05-27-2004 Post #: 3 Post ID: 20264 Reply to: 20260 Yep, that did it. fiogf49gjkf0d Yes, it did it. A nice blow of the system with signal did wipe out the cardboard effect. It took one day 5 house and another day 5 hours of strong noise to run across the speakers.  The sound lost hardness, lost that washy-washy flatness of cardboard effect and become again soft, liquid and holographic. So, what was it? The drivers’ suspension? That is the only thing that I can blame but it kind of sound contra-intelligent, doesn’t it? The caT. "I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche