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N-set
Warsaw, Poland
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Post #: 101
Post ID: 28136
Reply to: 28123
Speakers
Thank you Romy and others for the input! For the time being I will concentrate the efforts on the Yamahas.
 Romy the Cat wrote:


 In terms of speakers and amplifications for reverberation channels by Yamaha topology it is kind of tricky. As you would be listening quote Yamaha field injection channels output you will see it is not a normal signal and you will find that good acoustic system not necessary need to be there. 

That is my big question now: what type of speakers? I don't have anything at hand so they will be acquired/DIYed for the purpose. I remember you mentioned at some point that you believed bookshelf speakers would be enough. I guess that might be true in the context of your very capable bass channels of the main speakers. I'm wondering what should I look for in the context of Dannoys + near field listening (about 2m for either speaker)?

 Romy the Cat wrote:

You are about to discover a lot of very interesting experiences and I sincerely believe service proper reverberation injection you would not be looking for an options to extend the bottom knee of your Dannoy.

That is exactly my hope. Edgar says the same thing.


 Romy the Cat wrote:

If you read carefully what I stated in my thread about ampX then you recognize the time made some comments which suggest that a proper bass during sound reproduction should not be the same signal as a driven that mid frequency channels. I know that old people pretty much bypasses is comment as meaningless but it is not, and people do not understand what I meant. What I meant however is very crucial. The distribution of harmonic context across amplitude for meat frequency and base supposed to be different and you would need a very very very very very very very smart amplifier which would not be working linear in terms of harmonics but to have on brain how to bias it in actave-dependent fashion. AmpX doesn it natively, for most of us are amplifiers you would need a harmonics equalizer, which is very hard to implement properly. Hypothetically, you might have educated bass amplifier which act at combination of direct, delayed, and harmonically reformed signal but to the best of my knowledge there is no amps who does it. So, when you see super good Bass driver in any enclosure driven by a super good amplifier.... then it is just a bad design from the people who are completely blind to the fact that a linear signal should not be driven base channels.

Interesting. I guess we all feel that "bass is different". Were your experiments with RI the motivation for ampX?



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Jarek
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Romy the Cat


Boston, MA
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Post #: 102
Post ID: 28146
Reply to: 28117
As promised...
 Romy the Cat wrote:

It is not necessary needs to be DSP 100. There are around a dozen of Yamaha DSP processors good for reverberations. I probably need to record a video about entering a reverberation injection world. If I have a time I will record it later on today


 


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anthony
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Post #: 103
Post ID: 28147
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Dvc
Dual voice coils Romy.  Not sure if the Auros have dvc but if they do then perhaps different amps on each voice coil.
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