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Romy the Cat


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A passive but elegant presentation
An interesting guy. I would love to discuss with him a few points, not that he prolamins anything (unfortunately) but I would certainly can bring some complex questions to the table that make his presentation more applied



"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
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Adorno for Dummies?
Nice monolog to kick off a Dialog. He certainly touched on a lot of important ideas, and we have certainly batted around a number of these questions at GSC. Also nice that he quoted Adorno! I recommend to all to immediately read Adorno's hypertext, "Aesthetic Theory"! Talk about an All Day Sucker!

I was hoping he would play the big horns!

Paul S
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Amir
Iran Tehran
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My question
my question is:
the relation between "music listening experience" and "sound quality".
very good articles are here (GSC) and I have read them.

when I wake up early morning and start climbing at 5:30AM the music listening experience is wonderful even with $10 headphone.actually I think when I enjoy listening to music then it is not important how does it sound. High End is not fully isolated from music listening/enjoying but most of the time it's not very important.
I really like high end audio just because it is like a game for me and I do not think better sound is equal to better music experience.
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Romy the Cat


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One of the best questions asked in Audio.
 Amir wrote:
my question is: the relation between "music listening experience" and "sound quality".

Amir, this is such a loaded question and completely valid to think about. In fact, I feel any audio practicing people only after recognizing the answer question might become a self-worthy audio individual but not a continue to be of the audio industry slaves who lives in constant fear of disobedience.

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Amir
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Happy New Year 2024
 Romy the Cat wrote:
 Amir wrote:
my question is: the relation between "music listening experience" and "sound quality".

Amir, this is such a loaded question and completely valid to think about. In fact, I feel any audio practicing indivisible only after recognizing the answer question might become a self-contained audio individual but not a used condom of the audio industry who lives in constant fear of disobedience.


Romy Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. 
I Wish this New Year brings for you lots of joy,happiness, good health and indeed wealth. 
Please share more audio ideas in new year .
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Romy the Cat


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I think it is important in 2024
Amir, happy new year to you too. Hope it will be peaceful for both of us.

"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Amir
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Thank you very much
 Romy the Cat wrote:
Amir, happy new year to you too. Hope it will be peaceful for both of us.

Romy, Thank you very much
Amir
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Tragedy
The answer could be simple .to round it up fast it(sound quality) equals to any PROBLEMATIC FREE playback system. That said being problematic free is not easy for any playback system or what you call high end thats why a cheap headphone may pass the test .To be honest you were gamed pursuing high end ..Audio playback is just a tool.The tragedy is not finding what it is the sound you like.Regards
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steverino
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Habituation
 Amir wrote:
my question is:
the relation between "music listening experience" and "sound quality".
very good articles are here (GSC) and I have read them.

when I wake up early morning and start climbing at 5:30AM the music listening experience is wonderful even with $10 headphone.actually I think when I enjoy listening to music then it is not important how does it sound. High End is not fully isolated from music listening/enjoying but most of the time it's not very important.
I really like high end audio just because it is like a game for me and I do not think better sound is equal to better music experience.


The initial exposure to something new in art (or people or xxx) that affects us powerfully emotionally has an intensity that inevitably dulls somewhat on repetition. This is called habituation. Then it can go one of two ways, either becoming "comfort food" or initiating an extended search for a way to relive or rediscover the magic. With respect to music it is well known that most people stop actively listening to a lot of new music once they get in their 30s. Only a small proportion continue to seek out new music which can give them the initial rush of excitement with a new experience, The rest just use the music they know as comforting background noise. So having better sonics is one way of reconnecting with known music as it makes it sound different (hopefully better). There is nothing ignoble about this. For example if we only knew certain art through grainy photos wouldn't we want to find a way to see them more clearly? Or if books were only known through garbled text wouldn't we want to find a copy where the text was closer to what was written?
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