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09-23-2024 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
Posts 2,666
Joined on 10-12-2006

Post #: 41
Post ID: 27606
Reply to: 27605
Visaton Horns
Thanks, Rick, but I used Visaton TL16H  horns, and I am quoite happy with the results, as I share in the thread.
Did you build the TL1s?

Best regards
Paul S
09-30-2024 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree
N-set
Gdansk, Poland
Posts 617
Joined on 01-07-2006

Post #: 42
Post ID: 27608
Reply to: 27605
I may be
 rickmcinnis wrote:
Just noticing this.
I have a pair of those VIAWAVE tweeters if you are interested in them.
Have no need for them.

I may be interested to experiment with Dannoys. Feel free to email me the details (version, condition, price etc)
Best,jarek


Cheers,
Jarek
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Paul S
San Diego, California, USA
Posts 2,666
Joined on 10-12-2006

Post #: 43
Post ID: 27705
Reply to: 27608
"Advice" on The Loudspeakers
So far, the The Loudspeakers have handled everything I have tasked them with, and I have actually gotten a lot more in the way of Music than I imagined I would when I started with The Loudspeakers. I haven’t tried to alter these speakers in any way as I have explored what they can do. Rather, I have moved the speakers around and tried different listening positions, and I have played with “tuning” my source gear, including cable swaps and messing with my tonearm and cartridge settings, also driver loading in my phono stage. I have mentioned that The Loudspeakers are “very revealing”, and this quality gives me not only unmatched Music playback but it also allows me to “look into” the contributions of the various components that make up my system. Components I do not mess with are my amps; my TVC (transformer-based volume control); the (Chimera) IC cables between my TVC and my amps; my T3000 SUT; CD transport; DAC (already messed with by John Wright). Everything else is subject to tweaking, although I very seldom mess with my TT, and rarely my tonearm, apart from VTA, which I quickly check and set for every LP, according to the repeatable VTA system I developed. I hope it augers well that I tweak less and less as time passes, as I have settled in with this system that includes The Loudspeakers.  I wish for everyone the Joy I derive from Great Music that The Loudspeakers have made available to me.
 
In closing, I want to repeat two important considerations for anyone pondering The Loudspeaker project. First, not all amps are going to drive The Loudspeakers. Do your homework and be sure you choose your amps wisely, based on the loads The Loudspeaker drivers and X/Os impose, also the exponential demands The Loudspeakers make on amps if you want them to be as dynamic as they can be. Second, I repeat, I very strongly recommend NOT changing Troels’ design in any way until you have gotten the best from the stock design, which might take you a year or more. Above all, do not second guess Troels’ design or ass-u-me you can improve on it by rounding corners, adding ports, tweaking X/Os, changing drivers or driver locations, etc., etc., and if you do, don’t complain when your speakers disappoint you. Lastly, I am very glad I chose the Visaton TL16H super tweeter, but it did take a while for the drivers to break in. Also, the TL16H is dynamic and extended enough that you will absolutely hear your front end with this super tweeter! I do not think the TL16H is “hard” at all, but it is very “revealing”, for sure. If you need a “soft” tweeter to compensate for system problems, do not choose the TL16H. 
   
Paul S
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