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slowmotion


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Post #: 21
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Re: The queries Cat...is right....

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That is correct, my present setup doesn't speak much under 40Hz, or so.
And, they are not very directional down there...

But, I am working towards a gradual transition,
and I might even get halfway there, one day......

cheers, Jan
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Romy the Cat


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 slowmotion wrote:
That is correct, my present setup doesn't speak much under 40Hz, or so.
And, they are not very directional down there...

But, I am working towards a gradual transition,
and I might even get halfway there, one day......
...this relationship between the “fussiness” of HF and the presents of ULF is very characteristic. When you get tout out of playback it’s LF (preferably no the dipole LF) then you might reevaluate your preferences to the narrow-directional HF. In fact, without a wide deception of HF you will not get any proper lows.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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It has nothing to do with scients.

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 AOK_Farmer wrote:
Of course many of the most important discoveries are made purely by accident...Most of the discoveris I have made in audio have had an element of chance in them. Sometimes you go to Las Vegas to *roll the dice*. :-)
Steve, I was not talking about any scientific methods and I think you did not get what I was targeting. I was talking explicitly about a relationship between the playback’s capacity and own expectations and reference points. It is absolutely irrelevant if the “new” comes to you as an accident or in an analytical fashion. The important is to be ready to acknowledge and to perceive the “new” facts in a format that would relate the “new thing” with everything else. At least, the method I proposed is used by me and I find that since I discovered it I have 100% “kill’ rate” when I approach to the “new” in audio.

The cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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slowmotion


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Re: Proper lows....
Hi

 Romy the Cat wrote:
...this relationship between the “fussiness” of HF and the presents of ULF is very characteristic.


Certainly the HF is very important to portray LF...


When you get tout out of playback it’s LF (preferably no the dipole LF) then you might reevaluate your preferences to the narrow-directional HF.


Romy, I didn't understand this sentence

In fact, without a wide deception of HF you will not get any proper lows.<BR><BR>The Cat


Hmmm, I think I see what you mean,
but I'm not sure I agree....

cheers , Jan
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Romy the Cat


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Wide dissipation pattern.

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Jan ,

I meant to say: when you get the real LF from playback then you might reevaluate your preferences to HF “wildness”. The wide dissipation is always a good idea but without LF the wide dissipation does not work properly. The LF “compiles” the wide dissipation pattern into totally different thing and melts it together with the room. Also, the narrow tweeters are all very much distance-sensitive and the do sound more or less OK (integrated with the MF) only form a very specific distance (upon the crossover and many other factors). This is a bit topic itself but at least it was my experience.

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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slowmotion


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Re: HF “wildness”

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I have to think about this one, Romy.
I use frontloaded horns , and much prefer a controlled
horizontal coverage angle, fairly narrow in my case.
At least down to at least 250Hz , or so.
Below that the wavelengths get so long that most practical speakers
start to balloon out anyway. Even if they are horns.

cheers , Jan







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