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Paul S
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Post #: 261
Post ID: 14984
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Structural/Acoustic Things I Forgot to Mention...
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Referring back to "retro-fitted", under-floor shoring in finished rooms, such as basements, I forgot to mention something I have run into a few times, in "traffic areas".  This is the disintegration of the drywall ceiling board that almost invariably winds up between the bottom of the floor joists and the top of retro-fitted support beams.  When this occurs, it can be cured by using temp shores to lower semi-permanent beams, cutting out problem drywall areas, and fitting solid shims between the beam tops and joist bottoms.  Expanding foam can be injected to seal between shims and adjacent drywall.

The second "forgotten" item is that  man-made, "architectual" or "engineered", joists also have a "disadvantage".  This is the fact that floor systems using them tend to vibrate and "transmit vibration" well up into MF.  There are too many ways to deal with this to get into it here, but the initial rule of thumb is to avoid "over-tightening" re-shores, especially when dealing with "hollow" (drywalled, uninsulated) engineered floor cavities.  In a nutshell, especially with these systems, there is often a fine line between LF damping and MF enabling.

Paul S

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Romy the Cat


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Macondo calibration check sheet.
Ok the Macondo is all done in new room, including the bass channel. I am uploading the calibration check sheet not as much for you but rather for me. I have been keeping it got years and constantly am loosing it, now I will know where to find it. BTW, I feel that the same list mast be kept by anyone who run multi-driver system by tube multi-amplification. The tubes change gain and there are many other thing that can set the playback out if proper calibration. Once a month to run with dB meter the control check points will address all drifting. Also, always check polarity with phase tested after ANY cable reconnecting. (77777)

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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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Acoustic room treatment is done.
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 Romy the Cat wrote:
This mooring a brilliant idea hit me. Instead of the pale and un-spicy while foam the boars me I will use a completely different idea. I so got hooked on it that I ordered the parts already.  A few post above I made a post “Spectacularly cheap, pretty and effective.” about the new Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes.  The picture does not make justice to them – in real world they look spectacular. So, my new brilliant idea is to get rid all my acoustic treatment on this wall:

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And to replace it with a ccustom-made organ-like pipes, made from Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes. I mean I will build the organ like pattern, with a combination of the tube of different size and different diameters. The Kanuf brown unfinished pipes looks spectacular ion my room. The only concern I have is that the top of the type will be at the same level as the exit of horn mouth – so I naturally would like the types do not make any Helmholtz resonating; otherwise I would need to close the types.

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I very much like the idea as it will kill all HF reflection and very dramatically randomize MF. It might also superbly cool looking. I will be hanging a few “trunks” of the Kanuf brown fiberglass tubes under the center ridge of the cathedral selling  as well. The color of the Kanuf unfinished brown fiberglass tubes is very good matching with the color or my furniture and my carpet. Do not be too bound with the ugly plan-drawing I made. I do anticipate a very-very positive esthetic and caustic outcome of this attempt.

The Pussy.


That was done two weeks back but now I am uploading some images. I find absolutely wonderful from my point of view configuration how to treat the space behind and above my listening spot. I used the untreated version of the new brown-color pressed fiberglass tubes and I organized them in organ pattern with pipes of different decameter and height. This gives a wonderful combination of high absorption at HF with diffusion at mid frequency. The wall now look, feel and the most important sound very good. It is so good that I even place one pipe at the ridge of the cathedral ceiling, hanging atop of the room.

I very much like this configuration. There is one minor moment that I note – the HF absorption become less affective with temperature in the run under 60F. I think it is not a big deal to keep it above 60 as below 60F to be in the room is not particularly comfortable.

There is no negative health impact that I observe. Until I touch the pipes with my bare hands I fee nothing and since the pipes are sitting on the walls I do not touch them. It looks like the “carbuncles” do not drop from the walls themselves.

My original version had no leafs but it was a bit too boring scene. I added some leafs here and there and it sparkled the wall up and made a very good balance to the wall across with the leafs-loaded “bronze” clock. I also fell that some leafs made the reflection patter more random.

Looking at the all of it ornamentation I can’t deny that all of it look very gay. Furthermore, looking at the fun I had inventing and doing all of it I begun to question if I was a gay. However, the pictures that I took this morning do not convey the true lay of the land. The room’s sides have red mahogany feel and the bare walls feel screamingly empty.

http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Site_Images/NewRoom_AcousticTreatment_3.JPG

The foliage color is very good come along with mahogany, not to mention that foliage colors are my favorite colors. This is very much what I like, the decadence colors of dilapidating walls mixed with despair and decay. If any better place then like this to play Bruckner?

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Rgs, Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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A typical midday in my new listening room
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Romy the Cat


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About Width-Importance balance.
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I meant to have this post as a separate thread in the “Playback Listing section “– the “load” of it is well-deserve it but then I decided that it would be too easy for the readers of my site. The subject of this post is well related to results of my midbass horn project, so I will damp it right here.

As the midbass horn project is over then there is one subject that I would like to add to the evaluation of the results. The midbass horn I am getting now is exceptional in my view, it is good itself and it is very well calibrated. It has no overly moist feeling of the best vintage drivers while having good forceful tone, it has phenomenal extension that perceptional goes lower then 42Hz, I can go a lot over many positive aspects of my midbass sound but I would like to point out not the numerous positive aspects but one major negative aspect that resulted the whole project. Nope the “major negative aspect” is not the Above-Behind positioning of my midbass horns – I do not consider it as a problem at all. The “major negative aspect” is that my new playback inhalation lost ability to moderate importance with width. To explain it I need to disclose one of many “secrets weapons” I used in my old listing room.

In my old listing room the bass towers were positioned outside the Macondo MF islands, right on the time aligned-radios from listing position. Also do not forgers that in old room the midbass was coming from those bass towers as it was 73Hz first order low-pass crossover. The sound was very good and it was very “controlling”. Controlling is not condoled, Controlling means that Sound has active impact to listener, subordinating listing attention when it necessary. You need to read the Macondo page to understand what and why I was trying to do it:

http://www.romythecat.com/MacondoAcousticSystem.aspx

Some people who where allowed in my listening room did reported that in my room Sound was very authoritative and when necessary Sound was grabbing the listener attention and completely subordinates it belong itself. There were a few purely by design moments that were responsible for that and one of them was the fact the in my old system I was a control a “dynamic” control over the width of music presentation.

It happens with mammals that anything more important is always associated with larger size (Thos I do not think that most important female would be larger). The bigger is that more important, value, more prominent, mode dominating…. We raise our voice, we built huge churches, we compose large symphonies…. We subconsciousnessly presume that larger menace more notable. Then we have a playback.  A playback has own presentational width and then sound goes deeper… Suddenly playback opens itself up and begins to sound much larger. Technically we know that all that happens was the lateral source got shifted from Macondo MF horn to the wider-positioned woofer towers.  Perceptional the little walls of the stage are collapsed and Sound hit a listener with a width of upon ocean. Observing my guests at that time I always sow them to raise their heads a bit, I caught ma to do the same. This was very telling as there was no vertical shift of sound but they raise their heads. We, the mammals do it in face of superiority; after all we place our Gods to the sky not under ground….

The point of all of it is that in my room the location of my woofer toward was super beneficial as it was setting a perfect balance between volume, size and LF extension. The chosen crossover and the position of the midbass sections was very much the key to moderate the balance between the Width of presentation and the Importance of musical statement. That was great but unfortunately I do not have it anymore in my new room.

In my new room my new playback plays constant Width. It is superbly accurate and it is in way this is more proper way to play music. The 99.999999999% of playback out do the same and no one consider it bad. Well, my arrogances shall have some justification and frankly speaking after 10 year of using my Width-Importance modulation I feel a bit too un-stimulated listening my Width-Importance-constant playback. This is what I been figuring with me for a few weeks. I have considered putting some side-channels to add the Width-Importance modulations. I do not do it, yet, but I know that I will be thinking about it.

So, the “major negative aspect” of my new room is that it play like most of other playbacks with no lateral offset when Sound goes lower.  To do it properly I would need to position my midbass horns at “perfect” locations:

http://www.romythecat.com/Site_Images/Perfect_room.JPG

… which is absolutely not accomplishable in my new room. Still, I know how it “might” be and as time goo by I might try to invent something that would do the same effect by different or by the same means….

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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zanon
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Letting the music scale up
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One thing I look for in playback is for the system to scale up as the music gets bigger. So, when there is a single solo, the sound should be small and focused. When there is a huge crescendo, then the sound should be massive and from all sides.

I added stereo subs helped with this scale -- and now I think it's because I placed them time aligned to the L and R of the LR channels. Often when sound gets big, it's because the bass has started to kick in.

There are also some mid bass modules you can get, so I suppose I could run subs at the edges, leave the main channels where they are, and then add mid bass between the main channels and the subs. I'm wondering though whether 150Hz would be too localized in such a configuration.
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Romy the Cat


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Constant-width vs. active-width
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Any playback, unless it is an idiotic yellow driver speaker, bet bigger with sound become bassier. I however, very seldomly use phrase “subs” as it does not define what it is.

The idea to have width modulation channels did come to me and I did a few experiments with it.  I do have a very room for width injection. So far I did not like how I injected with but I made those experiments before the midbass horns were made. I might rye to have very small monitors running 80Hz-150Hz from very extreme side to see how it works. Alternatively I can get use to this constant-width presentation. After all most of the playbacks operate in this way… The constant-width is not as dramatic as my active-width scenario but I can live with is, making ugly phases and coursing but still to live…

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Romy the Cat


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To finish my house décor…
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Yes, to add the last touch of personality to my room I need to put something on the roof  and I have found a wonderful option:

http://www.americansale.com/Products/6-Airblown-Inflatable-Black-Cat__454643.aspx

Rgs, Romy the Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Tasteful interior decor strategy
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Romy,
I don't see a wine rack in the view of the speakers. I believe that the wine needs music to age properly, just as we do. A dark cellar is said to have advantages but the fish down there are albinos. Perhaps some research into how the music of Schnittke affects the flavour of an aging Cote Rotie is in order. Or the long term influence of the 45 Hz horn on the development of bouquet of a Chenin Blanc. You really should set up that experiment. 
Steve
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Romy the Cat


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Phase nuances – the last liability
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I think that nuances with phases synchronization from multiple channels is the last thing that I need to do in my room. I mend the aspects that were exposed in the few recent posts about the practical binaural nature of sound at HF

http://www.romythecat.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?postID=15014#15014

My carpenter assures me that a table can’t be placed on 4 legs and always 3 legs are load caring. If it so then I have a table with 14 legs. Sure not all of the legs would care the load identically but the association is very similar.

As last night a friend of my noted “the idiotic yellow driver speakers do not have those problems….”

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
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Irony of "FR" Drivers
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Funny that people think that phase issues just go away with so-called "FR" drivers, which have their own electrical and mechanical phase problems.  Of course it doesn't get any "better" with multi-way, multi-amped mega systems...

I have wondered for a long time if the real problem is the "magnification" of phase issues, which simply become more and more apparent according to where they are on the "Problem Totem Pole".  Once we get to a certain point, phase issues can really become quite maddening.  I think of the Wilson installation experts patiently pushing those behemoths around and tweeking X/Os and driver levels, and I imagine that at a certain point they are just watching the clients, waiting for the "OK".

Sure, we want to take phase "seriously".  But past a certain point, what the Hell can you do?  Like any hi-fi connundrum, it pays to keep your wits about you and remember what it is you're really after.

Paul S
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Calling the gods of music
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Paul,
Well if we are trying to *load* the room, to make the space we inhabit come alive to the gods of music then we have to either get the phase mostly right or overcome it with sheer force which is... um... kinda loud. Phase cancellations klll the room loading, or at least make what loads uneven the results of which I guess is the frustration you are throwing your hands into the air to. Isn't it true?
Steve sippin' champagne
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Paul S
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Absolutely
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Steve, of course I have noted very obvious, problematic "phase issues" with speakers in the past.  And of course we want the Sound to fill the room - apropos - with Music, not noise.  But good luck with keeping track of "phase angles", and good luck keeping everything in "perfect phase" from source to ears, for so many electrical and mechanical reasons it finally becomes a matter of adjusting things to sound "good" in the listening seat rather than the fruit of some Quixotic Quest to "get everything in phase".  I will go so far as to speculate that some of the "effects" we treasure in our playback are ultimately the result of system/in-room phase "issues".  Regardless, although I agree with "mostly right" where "phase" is  concerned, I think "phase" is like "pornography": I know it when I hear it.

Best regards,
Paul S

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zanon
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Phase manipulation
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Paul:

To build on your thoughts -- I have a sound bar for my TV which manipulates phase so you can pick between the audio seeming to come from a wider source, or from a focused point source. So, for your action movie set it on wide, and for your period piece, set it on focused.

I don't know how it does this, but I think it would be an interesting trick for an amp or pre-amp to do. So the question goes from "am I in phase" to "is phase creating the effects I want it to create"?
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Romy the Cat


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No relation.
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 zanon wrote:
…. I have a sound bar for my TV which manipulates phase so you can pick between the audio seeming to come from a wider source, or from a focused point source. So, for your action movie set it on wide, and for your period piece, set it on focused.

I don't know how it does this, but I think it would be an interesting trick for an amp or pre-amp to do. So the question goes from "am I in phase" to "is phase creating the effects I want it to create"?
Just be advised the what you describe, in fact what Paul described as well, has absolutely no relation with what I described above and what I am dealing now. But it is OK…..

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Paul S
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Spinning Into Another Thread...
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Zanon, I suppose this is one way to spin it (sorry...), since most of us probably do want some sort of "effects" along with our plain-and-simple "reproduction".  And certainly some amps and pre-amps do actually do it, if to a lesser extent (degree...) than you may be suggesting.  Remember, there are "linear", non-liner, and even "random" ways of doing this.  If to do this, then when/where should it happen?  There might be better and worse ways of acomplishing this at any point in the chain.  This does not make speaker/driver phase a non-issue, rather it puts a somewhat different **** on it.

Reading Romy's last (above) after I posted this, I am editing to re-iterate that this stuff might better be in another thread, since it has gotten so far OT.

Best regards,
Paul S
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DPoLS and overcoming the dissection of sound
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I think that thinking about the audio problems in terms of phase is perhaps logical but counter productive for the reasons you enumerate Paul. It is not the humane thinking... but room *loading* and the DPoLS placement philosophy are... feeling the music take over in an irresistably seductive fashion rather than appear as a spectacle in front of you will only happen if most of the phase issues are combining in some sort of concert that we as humans perceive as *correct*. And that perception is the feeling of *loading* and of creating the living sounds and of raising our heads when the music plays as if the gods had entered the space around us.
Steve
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Dynamical mismatch
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 Paul S wrote:
Funny that people think that phase issues just go away with so-called "FR" drivers, which have their own electrical and mechanical phase problems.  Of course it doesn't get any "better" with multi-way, multi-amped mega systems...

I have wondered for a long time if the real problem is the "magnification" of phase issues, which simply become more and more apparent according to where they are on the "Problem Totem Pole".  Once we get to a certain point, phase issues can really become quite maddening.  I think of the Wilson installation experts patiently pushing those behemoths around and tweeking X/Os and driver levels, and I imagine that at a certain point they are just watching the clients, waiting for the "OK".

Sure, we want to take phase "seriously".  But past a certain point, what the Hell can you do?  Like any hi-fi connundrum, it pays to keep your wits about you and remember what it is you're really after.

Paul S


I stopped believing in phase as the most important cause of coherence when I listened to the Lithophon Miracle and believed to hear exactly the opposite of what I am used to with cone/dome speakers: woofers that dynamically don't keep up with the tweeter. Bought a pair of tweeters, crossed with 12 dB at 5 kHz and realized that's still fullrange enough for me.
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Romy the Cat


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What makes us believe that snake was poison?
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 el`Ol wrote:
I stopped believing in phase as the most important cause of coherence when I listened to the Lithophon Miracle and believed to hear exactly the opposite of what I am used to with cone/dome speakers: woofers that dynamically don't keep up with the tweeter. Bought a pair of tweeters, crossed with 12 dB at 5 kHz and realized that's still fullrange enough for me.
It has nothing to do with “believing in phase” and I do no talk about coherence or about any other exoteric definition. I am talking about very well defined and very specific anomalies of sound that are gone as soon the phase coherency is archived. You might not believe that snake is poison then the proof would be the eyes running out of orbit after she bites you. If taking the snake anti-poison will cure the problem then can we savely presume that the snake was in fact poisoned? 

The Cat


"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Stradiwinerius?
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 AOK_Farmer wrote:
Romy, I don't see a wine rack in the view of the speakers. I believe that the wine needs music to age properly, just as we do. A dark cellar is said to have advantages but the fish down there are albinos. Perhaps some research into how the music of Schnittke affects the flavour of an aging Cote Rotie is in order. Or the long term influence of the 45 Hz horn on the development of bouquet of a Chenin Blanc. You really should set up that experiment. 

Stradi-wine-rius_wine_rack.JPG

I was not able to refuse myself to implement some kitsch aspects in my listening room. Steve, if now you will complain that I have no wine rack in my room then I will oblige you to fill it up… BTW, one of the bottles in there is your Lakewood 2005 Glaciovinium ice-wine - a very cool thing for early Haydn or for late women… 
 
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"I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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