09-05-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Romy the Cat Boston, MA Posts 10,043 Joined on 05-27-2004 Post #: 181 Post ID: 21954 Reply to: 21952 If it is true.... fiogf49gjkf0d Aga, you clearly see a split in the image referred above it means that the midhorns are no single solid horizontal assembly but two separate units that were so unlucky positioned probably for the sake of photogenicism. Jonathan Valin In his write up stated that they equipped with four 16” drivers. If so then they are hardly horns but rather direct radiators as there is very little difference between trout and mouth. The horn loading in this topology happens at very high frequency, my estimation would be ~150Hz and then lower bass just shoved over everything. They usually are very unfortunately sounding decisions, the pro audio folks do it for years and there is no surprised that Cessaro used pop music for own demo and nothing else that LF section would not be good for. I personally very much would prefer they use an honest direct radiators without creating of that elaborate 1 tone feels-like-horn deception.    However, the revelation that they use 2X16” drivers per side comes from Jonathan Valin who is certifiably idiot and he can run his mouth about anything with no punitive liability. The pearl that he dropped right there is his testimony for receiving the “Morons of the Month” award:    “I fully realize that the charm of horns is not for all. Almost like single-driver speakers they get the initial transient and fundamental so right they can shock you with their realistic presence and immediacy, but perhaps because of their incomparable speed they don't always follow up on those super-realistic transients and fundamentals with equally lifelike harmonics.”   "I wish I could score everything for horns." - Richard Wagner. "Our writing equipment takes part in the forming of our thoughts." - Friedrich Nietzsche

09-05-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree xandcg Rio de Janeiro, BR. Posts 218 Joined on 09-07-2014 Post #: 182 Post ID: 21956 Reply to: 21954 I thought... fiogf49gjkf0d I thought it was a scaled down version of the Beethoven, Gamma II, Omega I bass horn but those have cleary a taller enclosure then the woofers cannot be positioned on the same fashion. IIRC the Beethoven use also 4 16" woofers in total, Gamma II 8 and Omega I 12. I believe this picture is from a Beethoven at production: http://s206.photobucket.com/user/coopie_photo/media/image1_zpseacacb8e.jpg.html EDIT: JBL Paragon https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/35/Paragon_section.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NGFHnJ9xflc/Ul7kKJTz5lI/AAAAAAAAgIg/j04DVGxXFo0/s1600/jbl-p-010.JPG Think for yourself, do not be sheep.

10-07-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Exlibris Canada Posts 5 Joined on 10-06-2015 Post #: 183 Post ID: 22030 Reply to: 21956 New to the site fiogf49gjkf0d I'm new to the site and have had an interest in horn speakers since owning my first SET amplifier over 10 years ago.  I've heard about a dozen horn speakers at shows and private demonstrations but have never heard any that I could live with.  I'm currently using Audio Note AN-E/Spe-HE speakers and have had them for about 3 years.  Since I live in an apartment and am not a DIY'er my interest lies mostly with commercial horn speakers.

10-08-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree xandcg Rio de Janeiro, BR. Posts 218 Joined on 09-07-2014 Post #: 184 Post ID: 22032 Reply to: 22030 Some options. fiogf49gjkf0d You may want to take a look on:  Tune Audio Anima: http://tuneaudio.com/ http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PageIndex=1&postID=12129#12129 GIP 9700A System: http://www.gip-laboratory.com/ http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=16210 DC10Audio GOTTENBURG ODIN: http://www.dc10audio.com http://www.goodsoundclub.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=21950 Those are for very different budgets and you can also take a look on Cessaro. http://www.cessaro-horn-acoustics.com Regards. Alex. Think for yourself, do not be sheep.

10-08-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Exlibris Canada Posts 5 Joined on 10-06-2015 Post #: 185 Post ID: 22034 Reply to: 22032 Thank you. fiogf49gjkf0d Thank you.

10-10-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree xandcg Rio de Janeiro, BR. Posts 218 Joined on 09-07-2014 Post #: 186 Post ID: 22047 Reply to: 22034 Blumenhofer Acoustics fiogf49gjkf0d @Exlibris You can also take a look on Blumenhofer: http://www.blumenhofer-acoustics.com Think for yourself, do not be sheep.

10-10-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Exlibris Canada Posts 5 Joined on 10-06-2015 Post #: 187 Post ID: 22049 Reply to: 22047 Gioia? fiogf49gjkf0d Have you heard any of their top speakers like the gioia?

10-10-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree xandcg Rio de Janeiro, BR. Posts 218 Joined on 09-07-2014 Post #: 188 Post ID: 22050 Reply to: 22049 No. fiogf49gjkf0d No, I wasn't heard they big speakers but ever if I had I would advise you to really do it by yourself than consider opinions of others. Unless, of course, you really know the person and the person taste. You can contact them directly, they are responsive (I talked with them at once) and they also do custom builds. In the case you are considering, the Wiki one needs a *very* big room. If you are interested, I think they use field coil drivers from Wolf von Langa. http://wolfvonlanga.com/ Blumenhofer is located in Germany, somewhere in Baviera IIRC. Think for yourself, do not be sheep.

10-10-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Exlibris Canada Posts 5 Joined on 10-06-2015 Post #: 189 Post ID: 22051 Reply to: 22050 Thanks fiogf49gjkf0d I contacted them Friday and may hear from them Monday

10-14-2015 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Exlibris Canada Posts 5 Joined on 10-06-2015 Post #: 190 Post ID: 22072 Reply to: 22051 Others fiogf49gjkf0d No word from Blumenhofer yet. What about the various loudspeakers with conical horns available from Oswald's Mill; has anyone heard these?

02-13-2016 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Corallus Posts 4 Joined on 12-29-2013 Post #: 191 Post ID: 22490 Reply to: 22072 Viva Audio fiogf49gjkf0d I think this is something new... Or not? http://vivaaudio.com/en/products/master-horn/ http://www.monoandstereo.com/2015/10/viva-audio-master-horn-system-review.html

05-19-2019 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Amir Iran Tehran Posts 288 Joined on 02-11-2009 Post #: 192 Post ID: 25435 Reply to: 22490 Cessaro new Loudspeaker Good news for audiophiles Cessaro new speaker is active and all Components like DAC DSP Pre and Power are in the new cessaro ported DSP loudspeaker.You just need a transport like cheap LG Samsung to play Ultra high end Sound 👇 https://www.cessaro.de/products/c1/ including a DSP crossover and a seperate DAC-pre-amp with 192Khz/24Bit. The full audiosystem will be delivered including cabels, so the only thing required for use is a source (CD-Transport, streaming or analog sources like for example a turntable). I hope Cessaro add bluetooth and usb support in next version. What do you think about designer of Cessaro ? Do you think he could make true sound?

05-23-2023 Post does not mapped to Knowledge Tree Amir Iran Tehran Posts 288 Joined on 02-11-2009 Post #: 193 Post ID: 27090 Reply to: 25435 Munich High End 2023 For the first time My friend attended munich show 2023 and he listened to all of those systems.He did not like the sound of those systems and even super expensive systems like wilson Benesch Ypsilon were awful .He told me what is happening in this industry ? Why most of expensive audio systems are not good?! He listened to vintage big WE horns and prefered it to other rooms, it does not mean WE horn was perfect but actually it was better than other rooms. I asked him about Cessaro room and he told me Cessaro was awful . My friend has living voice horn system and it is less than 3 years he interested about audio. It seems the High End Industry art is just increasing price tags.