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Romy the Cat


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Whatever they say about pressings…
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Whatever biggest pressings names they do not throw I always feel defensive as any given record might be whatever it is.

There is however the “pressings” that keep amuse me with consistency of good quality. It might not be always good hi-fi journals quality but it always good natural audio quality. I have no idea by the way who pressed it. I heard many contradictory stories and I do not know what happened in reality. I usually distinct them by the font on the record box edge – they used the same font for everything... This pressing uselessly pressed for DG and for Philips but I think I have see a few rare other as well, not to motion some subscriptions. They are all labeled as “Made in Italy” and I have absolutely no idea why I so love those Italian pressings. Can someone tell the definitive story?

I am listening now the Beethoven’s early quartets by Quartetto Italiano from 1972. It is a celebrated, implacable recording with surprisingly wonderfully-balanced sound for 1972. Surprisingly wonderful? That is in my view a general description of the Philips’ Italian pressing. I might want the Beethoven quartets to be played slightly different (I have a problem and consider that Beethoven was a Jew he just did not know it) but for whatever the Quartetto Italiano meant to show off the “Made in Italy” records do wonderful job.

Rgs, Romy the Cat


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Axel
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Beethoven didn't know he was a Jew, well...
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most everyone else doesn't seem to know about having 'some' Jewish genes I would say, so why not Beethoven?

(Some noted the Goeppels and even Hitler had Jewish genes, and so why not?)

Going back into the periode when name changes required in the early mid 1800 in the parts of Germany I partially descend from (Baden) you'd be surprised to note that a LOT of VERY German sounding names where assumed by Jewish families. They were required by law to change there most impossible to spell names, to something more manageable by the authorities, so Mueller, Schneider, Jaeger, Metzger, and so on, all of the sudden also had a good chance of being Jewish.

The same, I guess, happened around this period also in the Low Countries - , Netherlands, Belgium of today.
Now, Beethoven is NOT at all a typical German name but rather comes from those areas. 
I have the "Bass" name in my family which sounds pretty much English --- and not to find out, that it was also a Jewish name that came to Great Britain by Jewish families from Latvia and some of the other Baltic States.

Ludwig B. was know, other then his genius, for having a bad temper, even that would fit just fine, now wouldn't it :-)

Axel


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Romy the Cat


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The Yiddish Beethoven.
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 Axel wrote:
most everyone else doesn't seem to know about having 'some' Jewish genes I would say, so why not Beethoven? (Some noted the Goeppels and even Hitler had Jewish genes, and so why not?)
Come on! I hope you did not read in me that I stated that Beethoven was a Jew or had Jewish decendency? I just said that some of the Beethoven’s music has amassing ability to be performed in very destinctive Jewish manner.  If you listen the way how tonality changes in the end of Yiddish phases, when all sentences sound like questions with collapsing air, and if you interpret the Beethoven’s music in the same behavior then it become VERY interesting. I did “interpret” a few movements of Beethoven’s symphonies into Jewish and it is very barbaric from one perspective but very beautiful from another…

The Cat


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