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In the Forum: Playback Listening
In the Thread: My Audio Philosophy
Post Subject: Musicians generally do not play by the same rulesPosted by rowuk on: 10/20/2019
 Amir wrote:
 rowuk wrote:
Amir, I certainly will not argue that many professional musicians have „easy playback“ with no demand for audiophile artifacts in their sound. This is often because they are drawn into the music at a „different“ level. The imaging that the audiophile wants has nothing to do with the reality that they experience daily on stage. The HF and LF extension that an audiophile praises is almost never integrated and makes real instruments sound wrong.

When i say many musicians do not know about right sound it does not mean they do not like Audiophile artifacts .You can test yourself , ask your musician friend and let him to listen two different system then ask him about the sound.

Amir, think about this - do I believe someone who is exposed to live music daily - or some self proclaimed audiophile without much live exposure? Even if the musician can not give words to their „perception“ of the audio event, we communicate at the „musical“ level. This is perhaps not much help to improve my playback, but I sure benefit from their response to the performance.

I specifically mentioned audiophile artifacts as they are disturbing and very amusical. Musicians do very much understand Sound, as they manipulate it in the concert halls that they play in. They simply do not have any interest in the worship ceremony as they listen to the performance, not the technological playback. In some respects, they are lucky. No ballast from audiophool parameters.

This still does not mean that the musician can define any audio objectives - most cannot, they also do not need to for pleasure. Most self proclaimed audiophiles are worse however, because they claim to know something where in most cases they are clueless.

I play trumpet professionally and have many friends listen to my and their own playback. Without exception, they like mine better but are not willing to invest time, space and resources because they get what they „need“ even from their Bose Wave Radio. I would even say that if someone cannot „get“ the music with a primitive playback, then they are listening to the wrong things and certainly can make no claim to being smart. I do not believe in audio IQ - except to say, the more that I know, the more humble I become because I realize how much I still do not know.

I think that you may have a playback that you enjoy, but there is nothing in your posting that I find stimulating or of use to me as your listening seems to be at a very low level. No posts about philosophy, music, perception. Just hardware and an elitist attitude that you have not yet been able to defend. Please stop arguing with Alex. He seems to know you better than you do yourself.

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