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In the Forum: Didital Things
In the Thread: A littlie D-War: Bidat vs. Lavry Gold
Post Subject: TL0 3.0 Like Less Sharp DACsPosted by Amir on: 7/14/2019
 Romy the Cat wrote:

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I know quite a few installations when CEC-TL0 entered a well performing setup and literally destroyed it. The typical compliances by the system owners were that the CEC-TL0 was “too much”. This is very much true: the CEC-TL0 output so much in everything: details, rhythm, bass, articulation that most of playbacks juts could not handle them and the listing awareness get overwhelmed and stop processing Sound. Using without spacial precautions the TL0 produce just a collection of super high quality sounds that would be not organized into music. This is how the TL0 pretty much sounds in moist of the places… In order to make the TL0 do not sound like a cold, high precision anal-retentive machine it needs a proper DAC, that DAC that would embrace what TL0 dose incredibly well: both frequency extremes, details, phenomenal rhythm and stunning, not comparing with a anything else articulation, but in the same time compile the sounds into music, unite everything together and fix up the TL0’s limitations in upper bass.

So, in my world the Bidat was exactly the DAC that was doing exactly that. The combination of TL0-Synopsis-Bidat turned out to be very-very successful and probably if not Bidat I would not go for the TL0. OK, what happen when I drive the TL0 into Lavry? The problem is that nothing happen and the Lavry outputs the very same TL0’s high quality individual sounds that many other DACs did. The TL0- Lavry presentation was very nice, large, bassy, fast but it is hardly musical. Not to mention that in the case of CD course (contrary to my FM case) the Lavry’s tendency for being slightly brighter serves a negates purpose. I would say that Lavry extreme HF were objectively better then Bidat. They were cleaner, more “expressed” (in very positive ways) and I would say even more sophisticated. However, the Bidat juts did not have any HF at all! Sound after Bidat flows very naturally and I do not acknowledge or bothered by any existing or none-existing HF.

Rgs,
Romy the Cat

I Think CEC TL0 3.0 is not very good partner for dCS , ML , CEC DA 3.0 and other Sharp SS DACs.

It seems CEC TL0 X is better with less sharp DACs like Audio Note .

CEC DAC DA 3.0 was cold when i heard it with CEC TL0 3.0 and i wrote about it in past. I hate digital (tone) when i hear sharp sound.

Kevin (Designer of Living Voice) used Audio Note DAC with CEC TL0 X in Munich High End 2014 and it was wonderful .

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