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In the Thread: Adding one more non-spherical to Macondo.
Post Subject: It is not about the honk noise but honk fog.Posted by Romy the Cat on: 12/22/2010
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 zanon wrote:
My question is this -- in playback, how do you limit horn honk to just brass when there is no way to separate the instruments playing in an ensemble? Honk from strings for example sounds like crap.

You ask me as if I have claimed some success and state that I have done it. what you ask is the most complicated thing. I agree that honk (most of the time) on strings sounds like crap, honk on any percussion instruments sounds even worse. Ironically the horn on organ sounds excellent.  That why I think that the key are in very high precession injection but in a way that would not color the rest of sound.  My honky metal horn that I throw into mix sometime I use on the music like Arthur Wills’ The Vikings or most of the recording before 1953, where sound was a bit naturally honky itself in m view.

BTW, I personally am not a big fun of brass only music but if to go for it then I do prefer a very mind touch of semi-original honk. I do not call it “mind touch of honk” but rather I call it “smoky sound”. If that “smoky” sound played with enthusiasm then it might be a truly phenomenal thing. Pretend the Slavic Farewell played by 200 payers and you are just in front of them - it kicks your socks off, literally. I do not know if you know the work,  I was trying to find a good performance of the “Farewell” but there are none that I liked. Here is a crapy one:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XywSEhJ1mI

 zanon wrote:
There are many wonderful wonderful effects you can get from mass of horns. Tchaikovsky is a good example. I am also partial (sometimes) to Copeland where the mass of brass rips the very air apart. It is a wonderful sound when you are in the mood for it.

Actually the person who for me is an ultimate horn user is Richard Strauss - Strauss is an encyclopedia of horn sound! Going back to audio – I do think that it is possible. It is very hard if any possible to make a channel what would have all necessary things in one single cone. Still, with a dedicated honk channels is might be double. What we need is just need a prime that will set some kind of propoer insertion algorithm. BTW, to have special honk on brass is just a fraction of objectives. The most wonderful thing that the presence of mild honky fog does to woodwinds. That honky fog impacts woodwinds like colors accelerator. I love that Cognac smelling woodwinds…My Injection Channel does colors very well but it does nothing in honky direction. I need to look into it….

Rgs, Romy the Cat

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