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A new kid in the block: Sadurni Acoustics

There is a new company out there that makes horn-loaded acoustic system. I know a guy who is involved, I presume he is the owner or one of the owners, but I know very little about the design and the sound of the Sadurni Acoustics. So, let see what Sadurni Acoustics offers:

http://sadurniacoustics.com

What I like:

The time alignment considerations, this is mandatory. Unquestionably the frame is very good idea and to make the harness the support MF horn from air-separated slats is a brilliant idea. I really would like the frame to continue from tweeter in to have one additional channel. If you look at Gallery:

http://sadurniacoustics.com/gallery.html

Then you see that the speaker is begging for one extra channel, even visually. Also, in my mind the frame need to be painted in the same color as the rest of the horns. I like the configurable bass section and might be stuck up with respect to a given room, even thought I have no idea what kind drivers and technology is used to produce bass. I like that they make it multi-amp –ready but in my estimation a commercial company that promote multi-amp horn loaded acoustic system shall offer own multi-channel DSET or own active crossover, otherwise it will be an army of idiots out there who use digital crossovering.  I like the idea of line-array organization for bass, it works very well with hors and the low foot print makes is very versatile in the room. However in order to form the proper line-array at lower frequency it must be taller and the frame for bass modules might be revised.

What I do not like:

I hate when people paint different horns of a system in different colors. For sue they did it by customer request but if it was me then I would not even photograph it. I would raise tweeter for 3-6 inch from the MF horn. It would give some visual balance and would set it more “free” from the MF horn reflection.

What is interesting:

The bass modules. I have no idea what it is and I do not know if they are scalable. Sadurni Acoustics promote the adaptability but if the people have large room then would it be possible to have the stack of the bass module of larger diameters? Also, it would be very interesting to have options to set SOME bass modules in the pile to set as lower bass and some as upper bass. This way the specifics of the room acoustic in high might be used more creatively.

In the end, as a first product I think their Staccato model is promising. I have no idea about the drivers and about the Sound of the thing and they diplomatically do not divulge it, well it is their rights I guess...

Rgs, Romy the Cat


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Further info on Sadurni Acoustics
This is our first offering; we are indeed working on another two higher priced models.  One will have an additional channel on top, the other one will be front horn loaded down to 40 hz.  Optional finish and colors, both for horns and supports, are available.

Our speakers include an Active Subwoofer Xover for line level; this allows the owner to use any amplifier he wishes, solid state, tube PP or High power SET, for bass.  The List price includes two woofers per side, which are enough for small sized rooms and hide nicely behind the Upper bass horns for better WAF.  For bigger rooms or more serious audiophiles we recommend 4 woofers per side, but we can, of course, provide any amount requested; a 6 woofer tower will go up close to 2 meters high.

For the Upper Bass, Midrange and tweeter horns, we recommend using only the internal speaker level, active biased xover, when multiamping. For some of our first customers we included a separate Passive Line level High Pass filter at around 80 hz, but realized most of the times they liked their systems better without it!  Of course the expert owner can use any Line level Xover of his choice for steeper crossing, and even bypass the internal Xover:  but we strongly suggest keeping the internal xovers and crossing points.

We are in talks with exterior providers in order to offer a dedicated amplifier for our systems with interstage crossovers included.

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I wish you the best of luck selling the bargain system of the decade
Hi Jorge,

If $18,600 is the price of your 4-way horn system, even without knowing more about the sound and the choice of drivers, I think it is an amazing bargain by anybody's standards in the current high-end audio landscape. I hope you are inundated with orders and your company gains the success it deserves.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrfull&1319600488&/4-Way-Horn-Loaded-Speakers-by-

Best regards
Rakesh 

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What I find a very interesting in the design direction of Sadurni Acoustics went is a fist attempt to integrate horn and frame in the same sculpture. I like this idea from very beginning when I “invented” it but I never see anybody went for it. I do not think that Sadurni Acoustics went for it at full extend, they just scratch the service. I do not think that if I do Macondo from scratch then I wools go for it as it is too complex and I do not think I would be able to do it. Perhaps somebody with construction and design expertise like Jessie would be able to do it….

The concept is that the small connectors between the individual horns act the supporters of the horn and as a result the horns stack has no visible frame at all, the horns are free floating in space…  To do so the distribution of mass in the horns while they are time-aligned shall be calculated and it is very possible that in some sections of the horns very heavy metal shall be used and somehow integrated with wood/plastic/whatever of the horn profile.

I would not be surprised if someone would come up with horns molded around metal armature that would do a phenomenally sexy sculptured design idea…

THe Cat


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Thanks

Rackesh,

Thanks for your comments!


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